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I HAVE PROCESS REFUND ON THIS GAME

For the first time of my life, I process a refund on a game.
Now if you developers do not even understand the main fun joy of your game, you guys should bring in someone with experience to help you along.

I loved the idea and the concept thats why i bought it in the first place. Accepted the bugs and the lags...BUT you release a patch that NERFs a game that essentially is all about the satisfaction of killing big ass monsters? Shows how bad your decision making are.

Especially when Wolcen do not even have a long exciting list of skills that allows you to grind it out. Not to mention EVERY "so-called" flexible skill selection is based off aliments. Which would eventually be the same bloody thing.

I advise anyone who wants to be in their "TRIAL", then buy this game. If youre looking for a 90% finished game, then Wolcen is not close to even a finished game imo. Once you finish the campaign, basically youre just doing ONE SINGLE thing over and over again.

A free business advice for you developers - Just make this game FREE TO PLAY, and then make your money through microtransactions such as stash or other in game needs. This way you can have more players growing then you go raise for money to continue making it better. NOW you are just facing with downward growth of players. which shows your product is bad. I gurantee you players will start dropping out and moving on in 1 months time at this rate of your decision making.

Goodluck it was fun... for just 2 days... sad considering you guys put 4 years into it that was why i supported it by buying even when every forum is saying your network is down..

Replies: 7

Created: 4 years, 1 month ago

Category: Gameplay

TL;DR version:
"I used bugged skill and exploited its potential to clear the whole endgame in two days, but now it got fixed and I want refund, because I cant cheat anymore"

Yeah man, that is legit.

No offense, but there is no constructive critique. You are basically saying that this company is bad - ALL THE SUDDEN - because they nerfed skill that you obviously used to cheat. Do you really think that it was intended to BE dealing 25 million non-crit damage with no cooldown?

Why wont you just calm down and light a vanilla-scented candle?

Created: 4 years, 1 month ago

TL;DR version:
"I used bugged skill and exploited its potential to clear the whole endgame in two days, but now it got fixed and I want refund, because I cant cheat anymore"

Yeah man, that is legit.

No offense, but there is no constructive critique. You are basically saying that this company is bad - ALL THE SUDDEN - because they nerfed skill that you obviously used to cheat. Do you really think that it was intended to BE dealing 25 million non-crit damage with no cooldown?

Why wont you just calm down and light a vanilla-scented candle?

Zaxzax Original Comment

are you retarded ?? so for you its normal to hit a boss for 10 min non stop... i guess u havn't played a lot of ARPG ... in all games there's speed build and there will always be ... yes Bleeding Edge was a bit too overpowered, and it looked even more OP because everything else is so bad, if they nerfed it just a bit and actually buffed other skill it wouldn't look so bad... but the way they did this today i feel the same as him... they are gonna loose all their player if they continue to make stupid decision.

Created: 4 years, 1 month ago

TL;DR version:
"I used bugged skill and exploited its potential to clear the whole endgame in two days, but now it got fixed and I want refund, because I cant cheat anymore"

Yeah man, that is legit.

No offense, but there is no constructive critique. You are basically saying that this company is bad - ALL THE SUDDEN - because they nerfed skill that you obviously used to cheat. Do you really think that it was intended to BE dealing 25 million non-crit damage with no cooldown?

Why wont you just calm down and light a vanilla-scented candle?

Zaxzax Original Comment

What world of gaming are you from?

How is their incompetence in coding, skill balance and general lack of polish on the game cheating or exploiting?

BTW I didn't play Bleeding Edge and I got a refund for this pile of hot burning mess of a game as well. This game is in friggin Alpha stage at best and they released this crap as a finished game release.

(Edited 4 years, 1 month ago)

Created: 4 years, 1 month ago

What world of gaming are you from?

How is their incompetence in coding, skill balance and general lack of polish on the game cheating or exploiting?

BTW I didn't play Bleeding Edge and I got a refund for this pile of hot burning mess of a game as well. This game is in friggin Alpha stage at best and they released this crap as a finished game release.

xsarinx Original Comment

If you would hack a bank, steal loads of money, got caught and sentenced to jail, would you say in your defense that incompetence and lack of expertize of the bank´s IT security lead is not stealing or hacking? :) Bunch of cheaters whining, nothing more.
Refunding game with argument that game is in early beta stage is totally valid and fair, but this wave of refunds because they fixed some broken math is so funny im seriously enjoying it.

Created: 4 years, 1 month ago

Honestly, ignore the fanboys.

Created: 4 years, 1 month ago

If you would hack a bank, steal loads of money, got caught and sentenced to jail, would you say in your defense that incompetence and lack of expertize of the bank´s IT security lead is not stealing or hacking? :) Bunch of cheaters whining, nothing more.
Refunding game with argument that game is in early beta stage is totally valid and fair, but this wave of refunds because they fixed some broken math is so funny im seriously enjoying it.

Azazel_cz Original Comment

Except no one hacked shit .... the whole game is a hot friggin mess and shouldn't have even been released as a finished paid for product.

Was the bug exploited - yes, but its obvious that this game is full of exploits and bugs, thus I can't see anyone besides the developers being blamed - from what I heard this was a known friggin bug prior to releasing the damn game. I am tired of people sticking up for these companies that half ass and try to market a product that it isn't.

But hey, if you enjoy paying for inferior products, I say go for it man. I would almost put a wager on this right now - they released this game as a cash grab because they were either out of capital to continue or they realized they just can't do what they intended to do - and their servers will be shut down with a few years.

(Edited 4 years, 1 month ago)

Created: 4 years, 1 month ago

Except no one hacked shit .... the whole game is a hot friggin mess and shouldn't have even been released as a finished paid for product.

Was the bug exploited - yes, but its obvious that this game is full of exploits and bugs, thus I can't see anyone besides the developers being blamed - from what I heard this was a known friggin bug prior to releasing the damn game. I am tired of people sticking up for these companies that half ass and try to market a product that it isn't.

But hey, if you enjoy paying for inferior products, I say go for it man. I would almost put a wager on this right now - they released this game as a cash grab because they were either out of capital to continue or they realized they just can't do what they intended to do - and their servers will be shut down with a few years.

xsarinx Original Comment

the difference here my friend is between bug and exploit.

A bug is somehow something that is not intended but doesnt damage anything. The messed up skills and the skill tree were obviously not working as intended and even though most games have speed builds, the developers intention obviously (again) for sure was not to beat a 187 after 3 days or even less.

same counts for endless mod items. funny that people complain about uniques gone from dark market but not about 12 mod legendary items.

An exploit is also not intended from developers but damages the game. the economy in most cases or, gives extra power. I am sure you know the trainers for wolcen, probably you tried all of them before you found out you can dupe items and gold online.

Exploits are worth a ban because the player knows that this what he is doing is wrong and not allowed.
Just because you can steal an apple on the market means not you are allowed to do it, right?

If you dont like the game, get the heck out here and enjoy what ever game is better for you to cheat, exploit and bug abuse the shit out of it.

Created: 4 years, 1 month ago

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