One of the main issues with warriors is that they haven't thought the 2 handed weapons through. +25% damage, -25% attack speed. Skills aren't affected by attack speed. Have you seen a warrior not spam skills? I haven't. The -25% attack speed is totally negated. They have a buff, the stupidly overpowered bleeding edge with no cooldown, They get rewarded with +damage for being tanky, wow. They literally have everything: damage, god mode, mobility and endless rage with a few passives and rage potions. No need to use basic attack EVER!

Archers: I totally agree on the lack of a powerful but spammable single target skill. It's absolutely mandatory to have one. A buffing skill similar to Warcry would also be welcome. I wouldn't mind a pet skill either.

At some point Bleeding Edge will get nerfed. If there was more skills that offer better damage for a particular scenario, then there should be room to change Bleeding Edge or the broken skills

Buffs would be awesome that is why I thought of the two warrior skills (the Anathea ones). Eos grouping is in a perfect position to add a support function to a build. It needs a little work though

In this post I gave an example of a change: https://wolcengame.com/forum/feedback-suggestions
< It was here I was suggesting to change Unflagging Prayer to a passive that generates willpower and rage at the same time. Famed Return would be changed to a skill that lets you cast Sacred Spells while wielding one or two-handed melee. After some thought, I decided it could be applied to Range as well

That would allow a melee or ranged person to be a healer

Skills that cause buffs would add to that

Cleared a lvl 75+ expedition with just one mod? A penumbral lurker will sh*t on you, no matter how tanky, how much HP or resist you have. Also, bleeding edge is almost useless against them. God mode?...far from it. The exoskeleton elites will just 1 hit you, no matter if you have juggernaut or blood for blood on you :) Infinite rage? Once again, non existent. I use wings of Ishmir for mobility. All in all, after lvl 70+, bleeding edge becomes rather useless and I tend to use Wrath of Baaphet for CC and a small rage generation. It's also useless against the elites who have the regeneration affix. I wouldn't mind if they gave bleeding edge a small CD but add DOT bleeding that actually does damage, I would rather dodge/roll a few times instead of getting 1 hit :)

Using bleeding edge and having a proper build that can actually utilize it are two different things. I've seen videos and I've seen it first hand what they can do. A friend of mine has a bleeding edge build and can clear dungeons about 3 times faster than I can with my glass cannon archer. We've done 104 with 4 mods at level 70 and 72. Lurkers are a piece of cake even for my ridiculous 30k HP. It's not like that they'd have a reflecting shield.

Yeah, Bleeding Edge is useless to the point where every goddam build out there uses it to clear lvl 110+ expeditions.

You are right about melee scaling. Since most people just spam skill and rage potion, attack speed or agility become useless . A lot of skils definitely need some improvement. Like most of the QOL rune like Gunslinger's last rune (fire all shots whenever using the skill) or turret's auto target rune should just be included in the base skill. I'm sure there's a lot of build to explore if the passive tree isn't a mess and a lot of major nodes don't work. Like, 5/7 game changing nodes that I need for my build don't work yet I'm still be able to reach 145+ without Bleeding Edge or Plagueburst with 22k hp no problem. So before adjusting any skill they just gotta fix the passive tree first.

I failed to notice all the replies. I watch a Streamer who is racing to get to 90 live. His build is Bleeding Edge. I saw one critical hit for over 1 billion before. People who think that it is not broken, clearly has not seen it at the full potential

Yes and that is the problem with the game.. There is a lot of things not working, or need a re-design. Everything should have a value of some sort (some more than others). A good game design would only have two or three things that are useless. Wolcen has more than that

I agree the passive tree needs to be fixed and changed. However, they should be considering new skills as they go together. Example: If my thoughts on how to change Unflagging Prayer are taken seriously, then that would give more paths to follow (for melee or range design)

Another example: I was recently thinking that you could change the order. Change Unflagging Prayer so that 1H or 2H can cast Sacred Spells. It could have a larger bonus once Bane of Tyranny and Brutal Imposition gets changed. Those passives should affect Attack Damage not all damage. That would make it possible for Unflagging Prayer to look like this "When wielding a 1H or 2H, you may cast Sacred Spells. If you are wielding 1H, increase the healing of spells, and damage of Sacred spells (less of a bonus than 2H). If you are wielding 2H, increase the damage of spells. Convert half of physical damage to Sacred" (or something like that)

Then the node behind it could be the willpower and Rage regeneration I mentioned

That is only an example. I am sure someone who is a better theory crafter than I will find a way to make things better