Untainteds and bosses

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Again, I find myself farming 145 untainted because it's easy and I clear all my runs in 10 or less but then this RNG ass-pull still happens, where not only is the boss Mr. Holy knight and his holy shield of bullshit, who also got the tough, strong, and whatever other modifier he could to be annoying, big boy untainted decided to pop up in the corner and make sure that I had absolutely nowhere to stand.

There is too much wrong with this game at this point, don't even try to fix it, just go out and lick some doorknobs so you all die from this plague and then everyone starts calling your game "charming" and "charismatic" because at least nobody is gonna bug you about patching things when you're dead.

Replies: 15

Created: 11 months, 1 week ago

Category: Feedback & Suggestions

Well the "mr.Holy knight" - I assume you refer to the pacified aurora knight?
GGWP Wolcen studios - I'm clearing 160 on the 3rd level, getting that fucker as end boss and...just logged off after 7 minutes of standstill - got bored of kiting him around in full HP since he heals more than my damage and killing his healer only makes him spawn another one.
No, you cannot separate them.

So anytime I get the aurora knight I just ALT-F4. again wolcen, GGWP on well designed boss. not.

Created: 11 months, 1 week ago

You are correct! Although I just found one I hate more. I was in about the same position as you: 3rd expedition, clearing from 178-181, and I got shield boi, Justicar of the Republic. Didn't think much of it, just started my skill routine. Then I noticed that his health is going down very, and I mean fucking VERY slowly. So I mouse over shield boi, and see what's up.

https://ibb.co/Qksf0MR

Some random modifiers, but mainly, Material shield and Tough. Okay, he's taking less damage from my Havoc Orb, but how much?

https://ibb.co/TbxQqg7

Now to add detail, my Havoc Orb crits around 100-150K, and when the skill is behaving(so like 20% of the time) all three projectiles hit, yay good damage. The HIGHEST crit I got on this guy was 50K. So I'm hitting at about 30% of my actual damage, just chipping away at this guy who has, if you looked at the first photo, 82 million health. The solution?

https://ibb.co/F35qhH8

I stuck myself in a corner so I wouldn't continue to get shield bashed around the whole damn arena, and starting watching YouTube. Looking at the data in the screenshots, the first was taken at 9:44, and the last was taken at 9:52. Those screenshots weren't at the end and beginning, so lets just tack a minute on to the beginning and end of the fight, which brings the total to 10 minutes.

I'm going back to farming 145, I see no incentive to push higher when it takes so much more time.

Created: 11 months, 1 week ago

You are correct! Although I just found one I hate more. I was in about the same position as you: 3rd expedition, clearing from 178-181, and I got shield boi, Justicar of the Republic. Didn't think much of it, just started my skill routine. Then I noticed that his health is going down very, and I mean fucking VERY slowly. So I mouse over shield boi, and see what's up.

https://ibb.co/Qksf0MR

Some random modifiers, but mainly, Material shield and Tough. Okay, he's taking less damage from my Havoc Orb, but how much?

https://ibb.co/TbxQqg7

Now to add detail, my Havoc Orb crits around 100-150K, and when the skill is behaving(so like 20% of the time) all three projectiles hit, yay good damage. The HIGHEST crit I got on this guy was 50K. So I'm hitting at about 30% of my actual damage, just chipping away at this guy who has, if you looked at the first photo, 82 million health. The solution?

https://ibb.co/F35qhH8

I stuck myself in a corner so I wouldn't continue to get shield bashed around the whole damn arena, and starting watching YouTube. Looking at the data in the screenshots, the first was taken at 9:44, and the last was taken at 9:52. Those screenshots weren't at the end and beginning, so lets just tack a minute on to the beginning and end of the fight, which brings the total to 10 minutes.

I'm going back to farming 145, I see no incentive to push higher when it takes so much more time.

Photoboomer Original Comment

while i get your frustration... with all my builds and i tried many(mage, gunner, melee BE/BS, ranger, kinda ninja) i never encountered such situation.

If you cant out dmg Boss healing you better just work on your Build and ítems.

Created: 11 months, 1 week ago

im destroying 187 untainteds with a 2han sword and although i run trail when i take it off i still pull 4min s+ clears pretty consistent. doesnt matter the boss, they all die. dream big///gear up. happy hunting!

Created: 11 months ago

also my name is my tag... feel free to add me i can help you run and give u some pointers on how to take those big fuckers down

Created: 11 months ago

while i get your frustration... with all my builds and i tried many(mage, gunner, melee BE/BS, ranger, kinda ninja) i never encountered such situation.

If you cant out dmg Boss healing you better just work on your Build and ítems.

Devenhawk Original Comment

To clarify, the guy above me was talking about the bosses healing. I was referring to the bosses damage mitigation and my lack of luck when it comes to boss modifier rolls.

But you know what? I realized that my character is still my responsibility, so i went back to the drawing board, played with my build, and now I'm just plowing through 160 easy, and steadily pushing up to 187!

It was a fix I never really expected actually. I had been playing with projectile and increasing damage over distance, but there were still a few passives I hadn't really tested myself. So, I put the time in, tried several kinds builds, and I'm happy to say that I came to this revolutionary set that haha just kidding I went BE. I picked a cookie cutter bleeding edge build, and now I roll my face across the keyboard and crush every expedition. Yay. I'm having so much fun now.

Edit: So that's actually not entirely true, because I play a 1hand/catalyst BE build, so I suppose it's not completely cut and paste. I did have to play with it a bit, pick the right skills and roll the right +attack and +spell affixes so I can have 30 stacks of stasis and curse up at all times. But, even with that bit of engagement, my routine is still: AnomolyX2, Bulwark, Tears, Grasp, BE til rage is fully dumped. Rinse and repeat.

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Created: 11 months ago

To clarify, the guy above me was talking about the bosses healing. I was referring to the bosses damage mitigation and my lack of luck when it comes to boss modifier rolls.

But you know what? I realized that my character is still my responsibility, so i went back to the drawing board, played with my build, and now I'm just plowing through 160 easy, and steadily pushing up to 187!

It was a fix I never really expected actually. I had been playing with projectile and increasing damage over distance, but there were still a few passives I hadn't really tested myself. So, I put the time in, tried several kinds builds, and I'm happy to say that I came to this revolutionary set that haha just kidding I went BE. I picked a cookie cutter bleeding edge build, and now I roll my face across the keyboard and crush every expedition. Yay. I'm having so much fun now.

Edit: So that's actually not entirely true, because I play a 1hand/catalyst BE build, so I suppose it's not completely cut and paste. I did have to play with it a bit, pick the right skills and roll the right +attack and +spell affixes so I can have 30 stacks of stasis and curse up at all times. But, even with that bit of engagement, my routine is still: AnomolyX2, Bulwark, Tears, Grasp, BE til rage is fully dumped. Rinse and repeat.

Photoboomer Original Comment

Be is the easiest Way atm still, so no wonder you could get success. But if you wanna shake up the meta stuff Mage, Gunner, ShieldBomber and some exotic ones like tripple Phantomblades can also clear 187(and i prolly dont have some on my radar) so who ever struggle with some things its more often a problem with gear or Build than mobs being "unkillable".

happy hunting

Oh also try to aim to clear 163 as relaxed as possible since there drops the highest possible stat-Tier on Gear, from there just matter of time and some brain to beat 187 too.

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Created: 11 months ago

Be is the easiest Way atm still, so no wonder you could get success. But if you wanna shake up the meta stuff Mage, Gunner, ShieldBomber and some exotic ones like tripple Phantomblades can also clear 187(and i prolly dont have some on my radar) so who ever struggle with some things its more often a problem with gear or Build than mobs being "unkillable".

happy hunting

Oh also try to aim to clear 163 as relaxed as possible since there drops the highest possible stat-Tier on Gear, from there just matter of time and some brain to beat 187 too.

Devenhawk Original Comment

I do agree with you, the right build and affixes on gear makes all the difference. I cleared up to 187, and I'm running 160 untainteds easy now, just because of the build switch. I guess my frustration mainly comes from my expectation that there would be more viable builds. I understand that there will always be meta builds, I use whatever would be considered a meta build in every other game I play, so I can admit that the annoyance I encounter is my own fault.

Luckily I've found success with a mage gunner build. And I appreciate the tip, I'll start running 163 until I get geared a bit more.

Created: 11 months ago

I do agree with you, the right build and affixes on gear makes all the difference. I cleared up to 187, and I'm running 160 untainteds easy now, just because of the build switch. I guess my frustration mainly comes from my expectation that there would be more viable builds. I understand that there will always be meta builds, I use whatever would be considered a meta build in every other game I play, so I can admit that the annoyance I encounter is my own fault.

Luckily I've found success with a mage gunner build. And I appreciate the tip, I'll start running 163 until I get geared a bit more.

Photoboomer Original Comment

glad you found some fun again and good luck with your gun-mage, have 1 to and having a blast speeding 163-170.

As for meta Builds most stuff can at least beat 160+, even something crazy as Slayers Flurry Rouge Build, just not allways the way you want. Like going full Agi is worthless saddly, or trying to use full defense with no crit(well works but dmg is not were you want it)

Created: 11 months ago

  1. Fuck you Wolcen, Because I tried in several different ways to just reply to a comment, but you've now prevented that, I suppose I have to mention that shortcoming along with my acutal post.

We're not talking about being isolated to one section now are we? The whole point is to find a build that works in all situations.

You actually said it yourself, and thank you for this. "as for meta builds most stuff can at least beat 160+, even something crazy as Slayers Furry Rouge[sic] Build, just not always the way you want."

You mention Agi and full defense after, which anyone who has tried working that into a build knows it aint gonna work.

You also mentioned that apparently my build can't work for end game. "Good luck with your gun mage, have 1 to[sic] and having a blast speeding 163-170."

Why just those levels? Why not keep the build? Is it because you know that it can't do well at end game right now?

Created: 11 months ago

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Created: 11 months ago

  1. Fuck you Wolcen, Because I tried in several different ways to just reply to a comment, but you've now prevented that, I suppose I have to mention that shortcoming along with my acutal post.

We're not talking about being isolated to one section now are we? The whole point is to find a build that works in all situations.

You actually said it yourself, and thank you for this. "as for meta builds most stuff can at least beat 160+, even something crazy as Slayers Furry Rouge[sic] Build, just not always the way you want."

You mention Agi and full defense after, which anyone who has tried working that into a build knows it aint gonna work.

You also mentioned that apparently my build can't work for end game. "Good luck with your gun mage, have 1 to[sic] and having a blast speeding 163-170."

Why just those levels? Why not keep the build? Is it because you know that it can't do well at end game right now?

Photoboomer Original Comment

eh no. There was zero sarcasm, i just wished you luck and fun. :)

i run 163-170 mainly because i can do constant 2-4 min runs, which is whole point of speeding :P i can do 187 too but depending on what endboss i have it just takes unreasonable time(7-12 min whole run). So since itemlevel 163 or 187 dont make a diffrence i dont see point killing my Speed feeling and fun just for E-Penis sizes sake. thats all gun-mage is totally solid build idea.

Peace and Health Buddy

Created: 11 months ago

eh no. There was zero sarcasm, i just wished you luck and fun. :)

i run 163-170 mainly because i can do constant 2-4 min runs, which is whole point of speeding :P i can do 187 too but depending on what endboss i have it just takes unreasonable time(7-12 min whole run). So since itemlevel 163 or 187 dont make a diffrence i dont see point killing my Speed feeling and fun just for E-Penis sizes sake. thats all gun-mage is totally solid build idea.

Peace and Health Buddy

Devenhawk Original Comment

To Devenhawk: Thanks mate, best to you as well. Sorry for my shitty post, drunk me is more of an asshole than sober me.

To Wolcen: I had to open this site in Safari(I normally use Firefox) to reply to Mr Hawk here because the "Send reply" button doesn't god damn exist in the Firefox browser. Unfuck your damn website.

Created: 11 months ago

u need to change explorer size to smaller, forum have some issues with resolution imo.

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Created: 10 months, 2 weeks ago

I know that I have had to change the page zoom ("CTRL" and "+") to find the submit button.

Created: 10 months, 2 weeks ago

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