And here I thought it'd be something like: decreased every opponents HP by 90% or increased weapon damage by 1000%. My hands and arms are literally aching and I can't do more than 3 dungeons in a row without a major break.

Doing rifts in diablo3 is like 2-3min runs tops, here it take almost 30mins. It sux cos you need to really sit down for it and cant just do a few runs in between dialy life.

Combat is slow, there not many speed enhancing skilss, except for warpath but its not ideal.
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Btw good vid from PoE devs, they understand how to make a game.
Yesterday the devs from D4 released new content and it looks great. So much thought put into little details.

i really want to try making another build but i am afraid to as it will likely get nerfed later today. please revert your nerf changes and just let us play the god damn game!!!

+1 on that. I feel the same way. Not to mention playing Wolcen has become LITERALLY unhealthy.

"Yesterday the devs from D4 released new content and it looks great."

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You know you guys are just patching out all the real fun in your game, its been so popular because people have been enjoying the game, with every patch you're removing that. In the end it will be a far inferior copy of all the other ARPG's because it lacks the years of content, and development time they have.

Noone wants a slow grindy grueling gaming experience in these games. Think hard on the decisions you guys are making.

You need to change your focus from Balance Balance Balance, to Fun Fun Fun for the customer,

Im not so upset about the nerfs as I am at how under-powered everything else felt to the 2 skills that were powerful. I agree Bleeding Edge and Winter's Grasp needed to be adjusted down, but at the same time a great many other skills need boosting. Like spells that have absolutely no gain from spell power. Pretty sure Ailments dont work like they should. I mean I watch a few popular and hour investing streamers who take this game to a whole new level in terms of what can be done. I feel like you guys should be watching them and learning what the public wants. I'm no marketing guru, but would seem logical to give players what they want. All I want is spell power to do something not be a wasted stat.

> Winter's Grasp now doesn't gain Cooldown Reduction per level.

This is clearly aimed at those extreme dual Winter's Grasp AoE damage builds, except now you also nerfed everyone who used it for the CC only, should have just done something about its damage.

also magic find isnt working at all, when i ran a rift with max modifiers on (costing a lot of gold) id dint get more or better gear then when no modifiers was turned out.

These games are all about loot, but the loot within this game sux hard. The range of things is all over th eplace.

in diablo3 at least there is a tooltip(ctril click) to see the range of each magic property, then u can roll on just one prperty to get it better. This is not the case within this game
A lvl 150item can have a damage rol of 40-60 on a 2hand. makes no sense.

[DEV] I FOUND ONE BUG!!!

Both chars (Male\female) do damage. Remove both from game right now!!!

half of the Members in this Forum can't be over 13 Years old:)

all i see is...cry, cry cry, F devs, i leave the game, refund, D3 S20 and POE!

criticism has its limits! this forum erupts into childish hate and insults.

So cry quietly, leave the Game and play an old ham. No one will be interested in your comments.

why people need to leave? You cry because its ok to you.
Others cry because its not fair pay for beta version of the game.

reply to me please. Why they only nerf skills\damage now?? Why not in beta test "free" game!?
edit: Why i'm Lv.57 and loot unique itens with 33 damage!?
I pay for this? NO!!!

i can ask refound yes, but first, they have to read what i have to say, and they have to read my cry.
Because i pay like you do.

What people need to realize that Max expeditions are really REALLY overrated. you get the same gear at somewhere around the 130, I havent found anything better stat range wise above 130 and I have abused the BE build and cleared plenty of max expeditions, the only thing efficient about 187 is the production, but honestly even without finishing my city I was pretty much doing 1-2 expeditions per all of my tasks assigned, be it upgrading consumables or sending the politics / explorers or w.e their names are to get me gold/PE. stop crying about not being broken and over powered.
Yes the game is buggy af, half the talents dont work properly, some ailments don't work as they should for damage bonuses, there will be A LOT of changes coming in the next month - 2 months for sure before they figure most things out. go take a break with your PoE season, your diablo season, or just stop selling all potentially good items, you have 5 major slots in your chest, fill em up

could you also fix the spear leap ability, forgot its actual name, but I get stuck in random terrain parts like ceilings that somehow exist etc., caused me to quit the expansive dungeon i set up.

"could you also fix the spear leap ability, forgot its actual name, but I get stuck in random terrain parts like ceilings that somehow exist etc., caused me to quit the expansive dungeon i set up."

Sorry right now nothing is being fixed, Only nerfs. Fixes are coming after all the fun is gone.

Its a simple reason.... Lets play other games.

Me and 7 friends stopped play this game.... Dont have reason playing here.
Thanks The peoples played with me, and see it in next game.
Theres no point investing time in a game, where Devs dont fix bugs.
Dont have waste time farming again, wasting money for resets atributes and spend orbs for reset skill three.
Dont have itens for change to new specs, and thinking this game dying.
No make new character for this..... Waste time again, sames bugs, lags, crashs and logout game.
No fix drop itens lv60+, legendary itens lv40.... All joking....

Well, thx for All friends in game :)

1. when you go dinner out. You look at list (and prices), make your choice and you wanna that. Right!? Because you will pay for that.
2. If you buy one Black car, you acept a pink one? no! U will CRY until they paint your car again.
3. (maybe you only have 10years old so...) If u buy some LEGO ship, and you get one Barbie.... u go happy from shop? no. Because u pay for that Lego (or barbie)

We pay for one finish game.... but its not finish! It's in beta version (alfa for me).
And what did you expect!? We all go happy and glad?! Are you crazy?

Can't you people just do a build not using the was-broken-now-fixed rune? wouldn't that open up other runes to be viable? wouldn't it it add more variety and build diversty and open up experiment on new concept?
Like use "cast on cursor" bleeding edge instead of following you?

And why not go test all the newly fixed nodes? like Ailment crit nodes?

I have to agree, this has been the perfect example of bait and switch, the company knowingly and intentionally left all the popular builds in the game to boost sales, and are now making sweeping changes that change the games fundamental skills and abilities.

These changes are severely altering the gaming experience for its player base. Basically turning the game into a completely different experience that what was available at the time of release. I feel this should be a valid reason for a refund, as the product that was purchased no longer functions the same way it once did.

Would I buy Wolcen again knowing what I know now? No.

While I do agree there is a lot of whining, I can understand the frustration behind it. But let's be honest, without people voicing their opinion & suggestions, things won't move forward. So while I strongly disagree with how people have been talking to the Wolcen team, they deserve major criticizisms.

Things like nerfing whole builds should be compensated with free resets for example, it's not an alpha/beta anymore and wiping entire builds is not fine at this point. People invested money, time and patience because it requires some to go through all these bugs.

If they planned to fix the gold exploit and remove all the gold generated no matter in which hands it was (maybe a legit guy who just sold an item), then they should have warned these guys and push that fix sooner (in a hotfix).

If they are planning to nerf skills, then they have to first investigate why it was so far ahead compared to the other ones :
- Are the nodes working for all the skills ?
- Are the mods working as intended for all the skills ?
- Are the damages scaling properly for any builds ?
- Are all the skills viable for endgame ?
- Are all the archetype (depending on your weapons) balanced to clear endgame ?
- Are all the items balanced to face endgame ?

Because obviously the answer to these questions is a big NO and that's why people are looking to clear areas faster, that's what a ARPG Hack&Slash is all about. More speed clearing mobs, more loots. Ranged weapons are really bad in this game so you can just put then straight in the bin. And by bad I mean that the left click hits are not registering god knows why (networking?) and the animation speed if REALLY slow even with some speed invested. Spells are suffering from input lags or networking with a lot of delay between one another. Spell damage & its scaling are literally crap... Willpower on ranged archetypes is a big oof too.

So yeah, nerfing at this point is really not the way to go. I agree these builds needed nerfs, I have tried the winter grasp myself and a friend is playing BE. But there are so many broken things related to archetypes that it's really hard to find fun hunting for loots.

And legendaries/unique are really disappointing for the most part.
Coop with friends is a lagfest with models getting out of sync.
Friendlist is bugged.
Attributes are too one dimensional.
Ailments are good but straight elemental damages are crap for the most part.
The inventory is lagging while selling or stashing (right-clicking is misinterpreted as for equip item it feels like).
Mobs in higher expeditions have too many HPs compared to the capabilities of most builds.
Modifiers need work too, it feels unfinished (make it more significant or give more points, +10% on something that does low damage... is crap).
Some players are not getting the 2nd point of their aspect after beating the 2nd boss.
Talking about aspect, the infinity one is sometimes bugged => projectiles do no damage (0) and the teleport is not working.
The drop rate of higher-tier gear on specialist or bosses needs a rework, getting underleveled gear is really unfair and frustrating after spending so much time clearing.
And I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff.
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I am really glad you're trying to apply "big" patches once a week though, but you really need come with something that won't harm your game for its current state. Because it's all about that at the moment.

Thank you for reading me. I know it's a big wall of text :P